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Back to top Magic Site Admin Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 392 Location: Hampshire Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:06 pm    Post subject: Or it's trying to escape the volcanic lava oozing from the volcano of Nemesis Inferno. _________________ Marcus RCCGB Membership Number 1915 www.coastertouring.com Roller Coaster videos and much more. Latest addition: 17/10/07 Oktoberfest 2007 NEW VIDEO JULY 2008 Waldameer video added to You Tube channel, http://www.youtube.com/MagicProductionsVids Back to top stevencaine Junior Hyper Poster Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Posts: 108 Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:33 pm    Post subject: Thanks for that i will be watching it then   Back to top smiler Mega Poster Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 372 Location: Cheltenham Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:38 pm    Post subject: I saw that on tv on a advert looks good lol. _________________ Naked roller coaster world record holder 2004 Biggest ghost hunter record holder 2006 Photos updated (26/08/0 Zorbing, Thorpe park Flicr photos update (26/08/0 Video update (11/08/0 Back to top stealth fan Hyper Poster Joined: 16 Oct 2007 Posts: 277 Location: Fareham, Hampshire Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:16 pm    Post subject: Magic wrote: Or it's trying to escape the volcanic lava oozing from the volcano of Nemesis Inferno. Do you mean a sabre toothed tiger is scared of a few painted wood chips?     _________________ Don't look at me, I'm just Human http://uk.youtube.com/user/andyknight1 Back to top Big Stevie B Strata Poster Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 1158 Location: Greenwich, London Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:18 pm    Post subject: As long as somebody makes sure that the ride op Mindy is okay. We can sacrifice anybody as cat food but not Mindy. Tell them Andy. Tell them Smiler. _________________ www.freewebs.com/big-Stevie-b/ MICHAEL JACKSON! THE LEGEND WILL CONTINUE! Photo Site www.flickr.com/photos/stevie-b/collections/ RCCGB No. 2293 Back to top Mad Mamma C Kiddie Poster Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Posts: 36 Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:50 pm    Post subject: must remeber to it on the 26th january _________________ Carol Hodgson Member 2294 Back to top stealth fan Hyper Poster Joined: 16 Oct 2007 Posts: 277 Location: Fareham, Hampshire Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: Well, just seen it. Some great footage of the rides. But what was that guy in the lion costume doing in the bushes?   _________________ Don't look at me, I'm just Human http://uk.youtube.com/user/andyknight1 Back to top coaster-andy Junior Hyper Poster Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 192 Location: Crick ,Northants Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:17 am    Post subject: stealth fan wrote: Well, just seen it. Some great footage of the rides. But what was that guy in the lion costume doing in the bushes?   I think he was trying to primote the new Saber Tooth Tiger attraction opening in 2008 at the now closed farm   _________________ El Toro My 200th coaster and first USA coaster (Also member of roll back club on TTD 2) RCCGB Member NO 1960 Back to top smiler Mega Poster Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 372 Location: Cheltenham Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:03 pm    Post subject: Didnt realsie thorpe park was that close to massive woods with a adventure course railway line etc. A good program some good footage love the bloke running through the park with the gun thing that was good. _________________ Naked roller coaster world record holder 2004 Biggest ghost hunter record holder 2006 Photos updated (26/08/0 Zorbing, Thorpe park Flicr photos update (26/08/0 Video update (11/08/0 Back to top bluea61 Moderator Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Posts: 571 Location: Portsmouth, Hants Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: He was waving that gun around a bit, theres no way he would have made that shot so accurate! I can't wait to try out this new adventure paintball area!! _________________ Steve RCCGB - 2355 Back to top Magic Site Admin Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 392 Location: Hampshire Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:59 pm    Post subject: coaster-andy wrote: stealth fan wrote: Well, just seen it. Some great footage of the rides. But what was that guy in the lion costume doing in the bushes?   I think he was trying to primote the new Saber Tooth Tiger attraction opening in 2008 at the now closed farm   Is that the real reason the farm has been closed. During filming the animal wranglers lost control of the sabre tooth tiger and it ate all the farm animals. _________________ Marcus RCCGB Membership Number 1915 www.coastertouring.com Roller Coaster videos and much more. Latest addition: 17/10/07 Oktoberfest 2007 NEW VIDEO JULY 2008 Waldameer video added to You Tube channel, http://www.youtube.com/MagicProductionsVids Back to top coaster-andy Junior Hyper Poster Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 192 Location: Crick ,Northants Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:01 pm    Post subject: Magic wrote: coaster-andy wrote: stealth fan wrote: Well, just seen it. Some great footage of the rides. But what was that guy in the lion costume doing in the bushes?   I think he was trying to primote the new Saber Tooth Tiger attraction opening in 2008 at the now closed farm   Is that the real reason the farm has been closed. During filming the animal wranglers lost control of the sabre tooth tiger and it ate all the farm animals. I was wondering where all the animals where going I new it was not foot and mouth lol _________________ El Toro My 200th coaster and first USA coaster (Also member of roll back club on TTD 2) RCCGB Member NO 1960 Back to top Death Banned Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Posts: 871 Location: Farnborough, UK Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:21 am    Post subject: Hail All! Well, looking at the ITV catch-up service listings, it's available on there and I may well watch it if and when I get the time. However, ITV have decided to be idiots and make the catch-up system compatable with M$ Internet Exploiter only, so I've got to upgrade my IE Flash plug-in and other gumpf before I can watch it! Does anyone know why all of the TV channel sites have made their media players compatable with IE only? (I'm looking at ITV and the BBC's iPlayer here! ) After all, many of us use FireFox out of personal preferance nowadays - Something that we all have a right to do - And I pity the owners of Macintosh computers, as IIRC Internet Exploiter is no longer available for the MacOS platform, except maybe bundled in with MS Office for Macs! Whilst I'm on the subject of streaming stuff from such websites: I know that I can legally watch ITV, Channel IV, Channel V and any other advertising-funded Freeview content as is. However - Given that I do not have a TV licence - Does anyone know whether I could legally stream and watch content from any BBC-provided service? IIRC, part of the licence fee does go to funding the BBC...However, millions of BBCi website users from outside the UK don't have licences either...And they must download gigabytes per hour from the thing! Edit 0x01: After upgrading my IE Flash plug-in and reluctantly accepting a DRM upgrade for Windows Media Player, I was able to watch the first three quarters of Primeval (Not enough time for the whole lot) and it's pretty good! In the long-range shots of the park though, look carefully at Stealth - I was able to make out a like (Looks like a cable or something) running from the top platform. Oh, and I had to laugh during parts of the playback as well - Everything was there alright...Including the commercial breaks! Farewell, and cheers for any info! >> Death << Back to top Magic Site Admin Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 392 Location: Hampshire Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:49 am    Post subject: Death wrote: Whilst I'm on the subject of streaming stuff from such websites I know that I can legally watch ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5 and any other advertising-funded Freeview content as is. However - Given that I do not have a TV licence - Does anyone know whether I could legally stream and watch content from any BBC-provided service? IIRC, part of the licence fee does go to funding the BBC...However, millions of BBCi website users from outside the UK don't have licences either...And they must download gigabytes per hour from the thing! I'm no expert on the subject with limited knowledge but I gather the reasons for IE support only has something to do with DRM. Prgramme makers and copyright holders had concerns over restricting access to their programmes and I gather IE offered the best support needed. I believe the BBC is working on more wide spread support but before there would be a launch tests would have to be run to ensure the restrictions are right for the programme makers and copyright holders. You'lll note not all of the BBCs output ends up on iPlayer this is partly due to contracts between cotnent providers and the BBC. With regard to international users visiting BBC sites, they are blocked from using iPlayer and there access to BBC sites is restricted to dial up speeds with any media being low bandwidth quality. I think some sections of BBC online is completely blocked to international users. As for needing a TV license you currently don't need one to watch on demand online content but you do to watch anything that is being transmitted live to a receive device (whether it's a live football match or Eastenders etc.).  Here's a quote from the iPlayer support pages "You do not need a television licence to watch television programmes on the current version of the BBC iPlayer. You will need to be covered by a TV licence if and when the BBC provides a feature that enables you to watch 'live' TV programmes on any later version of the BBC iPlayer which has this option... A 'live' TV programme is a programme which is watched or recorded at the same time (or virtually the same time) as it is being broadcast... " Also have a look at the BBC website for more info http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/licencefee/ _________________ Marcus RCCGB Membership Number 1915 www.coastertouring.com Roller Coaster videos and much more. Latest addition: 17/10/07 Oktoberfest 2007 NEW VIDEO JULY 2008 Waldameer video added to You Tube channel, http://www.youtube.com/MagicProductionsVids Back to top bluea61 Moderator Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Posts: 571 Location: Portsmouth, Hants Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:16 pm    Post subject: I wonder how they will police that when it comes in. _________________ Steve RCCGB - 2355 Back to top Magic Site Admin Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 392 Location: Hampshire Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:55 pm    Post subject: Nowe you can buy your lciense online and never receive a paper copy I wonder if they'll some how link it to that. Perhaps you'll get a pin with your license and you use that to login to BBC online content. Or link it to ISP or something. I don't really understand the technical side of these sorts of things, just a thought. One of the thigns I love about going out with the BBC Satellite truck is I'm forever getting people come up and ask if it's a TV detector van checking for TV license holders. I just get all secretive and decline to comment. Cheers me up on a dreary rainy morning if nothing else. _________________ Marcus RCCGB Membership Number 1915 www.coastertouring.com Roller Coaster videos and much more. Latest addition: 17/10/07 Oktoberfest 2007 NEW VIDEO JULY 2008 Waldameer video added to You Tube channel, http://www.youtube.com/MagicProductionsVids Back to top Death Banned Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Posts: 871 Location: Farnborough, UK Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:48 pm    Post subject: Hail Magic! Cheers for the info about licencing etc. It's handy to know considering that I'd rather not break the Law by accidently viewing licenced content when I don't have a TV Licence! Magic wrote: I'm no expert on the subject with limited knowledge but I gather the reasons for IE support only has something to do with DRM. Prgramme makers and copyright holders had concerns over restricting access to their programmes and I gather IE offered the best support needed. I believe the BBC is working on more wide spread support but before there would be a launch tests would have to be run to ensure the restrictions are right for the programme makers and copyright holders. You'lll note not all of the BBCs output ends up on iPlayer this is partly due to contracts between cotnent providers and the BBC. I suppose that could be the case, but then again the mistake that many providers appear to be making is simply opting for Microsoft's DRM solution! Music purchased and downloaded through iTunes also comes with some form of Apple proprietry DRM system applied, meaning that if I were to copy an AAC audio file from a friends PC, then it wouldn't work on my own system unless I purchased a licence for it through iTunes. (A legal and handy trick for saving time and bandwidth for iTunes customers on dial-up connections! ) The advantage here is that iTunes protected music can be used on both Macs and PCs (Whereas to my knowlege there is no Microsoft DRM client for the Mac platform), and with a bit of tweaking can also be played on Linux platforms too. What I'm trying to say here is: The media protection/DRM system chosen by content providers should always be one that is platform independant, meaning that one could view protected content regardless of whether they use UNIX, Linux, Mac OS, Windows or OS/2 as their computers operating system. Magic wrote: With regard to international users visiting BBC sites, they are blocked from using iPlayer and there access to BBC sites is restricted to dial up speeds with any media being low bandwidth quality. I think some sections of BBC online is completely blocked to international users. Hmmm...I'll have to explore that sometime by routing my HTTP calls through a server outside Europe, although using such routing I'd be hard pressed to go over dial-up speeds even without the BBC bandwidth-throttling! On a more serious side though, I'd be able to use the same technique in reverse (Routing my HTTP-calls via a server located in the UK) to view iPlayer content from any internet connected computer in the World. Have the BBC taken that into account with the iPlayer design? Magic wrote: As for needing a TV license you currently don't need one to watch on demand online content but you do to watch anything that is being transmitted live to a receive device (whether it's a live football match or Eastenders etc.). Aye...So I can legally watch BBC produced content as well even without a licence then, provided that I remember to leave at least an hour after the programme was first broadcast before watching it! I was going to check the iPlayer FAQ for that licencing info last night, but it slipped my mind as usually happens with me! One idea that I've got in my mind and would like to suggest - Assuming that ye currently work for the BBC - Is the possibility of having users choose a "licence-less" viewing mode as part of an honesty system. It would be a simple option on the website that could allow the user to identify themselves as not being a licence holder, which would deny them access to anything that requires a licence to view, and save accidental breaches of the Law as I mentioned in the first paragraph. One thing that I can't help noticing though is that - DRM enabled or not - There doesn't appear to be anything stopping me from running a screen capture programme whilst streaming the video. I know that's not nearly as efficient as obtaining the original video file, but it would still allow me (Or anyone whose in the mindset to do so) to save an unencrypted copy of the video to my local machine - Either for genuine and acceptable replay purposes, or maybe for less legal uses of a video file... So given that previous point - And an old maxim of mine that says "Anything that ye send to the user's computer could be saved and manipulated by them for whatever purpose" - Are there any other forms of protecting the copyright of such streams, or is the BBC simply chancing that no-one will capture the streams and distribute them to a file sharing service etc? Magic wrote: Now you can buy your license online and never receive a paper copy I wonder if they'll some how link it to that. Perhaps you'll get a pin with your license and you use that to login to BBC online content. Or link it to ISP or something. I don't really understand the technical side of these sorts of things, just a thought. Well, even when I had a TV licence, I was never issued an actual paper licence and just had a stamped reciept from the local G.P.O as proof of having paid the licence fee. I suppose though that one could be required to open an account on the BBC website before they can view iPlayer content, and to register their licence they could enter their licence number, house number and post code into an account management page. Before doing this, they would only be able to access lower quality, licence-free content. Magic wrote: One of the thigns I love about going out with the BBC Satellite truck is I'm forever getting people come up and ask if it's a TV detector van checking for TV license holders. I just get all secretive and decline to comment. Cheers me up on a dreary rainy morning if nothing else. I've always thought that those detector vans were all a load of lies - After all, how can one isolate and identify the radiation coming from a single television set in a building where tens (Maybe hundreds) could be in operation? I could understand a hand-held detector (A Geiger-counter would be sufficient) identifying the location of a television set inside a property, but a detector in a van identifying a single unlicenced set inside an otherwise licenced block of flats and pin-pointing it to that unlicenced address? Completely absurd in my opinion. The other thing of course is that the television detection principle works (AFAIK) on radiation emitted from cathode-ray tubes, so such detection could never identify an LCD television, and would also erroneously identify other CRT-using equipment such as older computer monitors and oscilloscopes - Neither of which require a TV licence! Farewell... >> Death << Back to top Magic Site Admin Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 392 Location: Hampshire Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:01 am    Post subject: Colin a lot of the bypass methods you talk about regarding both DRM, HTTP routing? and screen grabbing are beyond the abilities of most members of the general public. Given the relatively small percentage of the population that would do it I guess the BBC and licensing people feel it's not worth the work needed to prevent them doing it. Why spend thousands stopping people from doing something when only a handful of people are doing it. I'm sure the 99.9% of the population would rather that money was spent on making TV/Radio programmes rather than catch a handful of of people. With regards the TV detector vans the licensing authority keep a lot of the technology and kit secret. But what I do know is that it's not radiation from the CRT that is picked up but the reverse signal sent back to your aerial by the tuner in your receive device. The tuner in you CRT, LCD, PC device sends a small reverse signal that is re-radiated by your TV aerial, so regardless of what your watching on if you use a tuner it can be detected. The kit in the detector van is capable of pinpointing which aerial this radiation is coming from. In the case of blocks of flats they use less technical methods, merely looking in windows, listening as they walk by etc. if they see or hear evidence of a TV they'll knock on the door. Records will also show if a property previously had a TV license and no longer has one, this would raise suspicion and could lead to enquiries being made. _________________ Marcus RCCGB Membership Number 1915 www.coastertouring.com Roller Coaster videos and much more. 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