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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 8:01 pm    Post subject: Gadget Show Reply with quote

Stealth was showen and no limits are on next weeks show
Out to find the scariest roller coaster
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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL, i saw that too and was going to post Smile
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was also going to post to the board   Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They also filmed at Drayton Manor. Here's what the park say

Popular TV series, The Gadget Show recently visited Drayton Manor Theme Park, near Tamworth, Staffordshire, to film a feature searching for the ultimate ‘thrill ride’ for an episode in its current season.

As part of the search, presenter Ortis Deley braved Apocalypse, one of the theme park’s scariest rides. Apocalypse is the world’s first stand-up drop tower, which takes riders 54 meters into the sky before tilting them forwards and then dropping at over 4Gs. Visitors can choose to ride either sat down, stood up, or with no foot rest, just dangling from their shoulder restraints, which is what Ortis did.

Whilst on the ride, gadgets were used to measure Ortis’s fear. He wore a Vital Jacket, which monitored his heart rate, and a device to measure the strength of his grip for the duration of the ride. He also had a blood sample taken as soon as the ride finished to see how much adrenaline he had produced.

The Gadget Show also visited other theme parks in the UK to compare and decide the ultimate winner of the UK’s scariest ‘thrill ride’. The results will be announced on the show, which is being aired on Channel 5, Monday 25th May at 8pm.

Ortis commented: “We have to do lots of crazy things for the The Gadget Show and I was pretty excited when they said I was going to Drayton Manor because I love theme parks. Apocalypse is definitely one of the scariest rides I’ve ever been on, and I can safely say I couldn’t wait to get off it!”

Colin Bryan, Managing Director of Drayton Manor Theme Park commented: “It was great fun to have The Gadget Show filming at the theme park. It’s no surprise to me that Ortis was scared on Apocalypse, and I look forward to finding out the results of the show’s research.”
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they had filmed in Texas then Ortis Deley may change his mind about the scariest coaster - but for other reasons than a pure adrenalin rush.
Many of us will discover for ourselves the delight (did I really use that word!) of Ryan's favorite coaster circa 2011.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was quite disappointed by the choice of rides on this show. Stealth was fine, Air, what the hell and Apocalypse, since when has that been a Rollercoaster?
Would have loved to have seen Saw on this one.
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stealth fan wrote:
I was quite disappointed by the choice of rides on this show. Stealth was fine, Air, what the hell and Apocalypse, since when has that been a Rollercoaster?
Would have loved to have seen Saw on this one.

I wonder if Nev saw it and thought to himself - gotta get that coaster designer s/w and chair - he can then ride Phoenix seat 3 anytime he likes.
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I Saw the show (got to get a Suzi fix each week!)  Wink
I agree, since when has Apocalypse been a coaster?  And I did laugh when the presenters (Ortis) adrenalin reading was higher prior to riding AIR than when he was actually on it!!  Does that mean that he looked at it and thought “Oooh that looks exciting” but when riding it realised it wasn’t!
And correct me if I’m wrong, wasn’t this a “roller coaster” challenge?  Cos I didn’t see any roller coasters featured, only thrill rides.  Where was Megafobia, Grand National, Big Dipper, etc.,  

Real coasters are made of wood!

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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was quite disappointed by the choice of rides on this show. Stealth was fine, Air, what the hell and Apocalypse, since when has that been a Rollercoaster?
Would have loved to have seen Saw on this one.


Funnily enough i said exactly the same thing after watching that last night!
Surely they should have used Nemesis or Oblivion rather than Air??!!
And then surely they should have used Shockwave or G-Force rather than Apocalypse?

Im also surprised they didnt ask for any input from the RCCGB into this program. Or did they? Ive already had one real life Suzi fix by meeting her at the Gadget Show Live. I wouldn't say no to another one!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I recorded the said edition of The Gadget Show, but only got round to watching it yesterday evening.

Andy Hine MBE wrote:
And correct me if I’m wrong, wasn’t this a “roller coaster” challenge?  Cos I didn’t see any roller coasters featured, only thrill rides.  Where was Megafobia, Grand National, Big Dipper, etc.,  

Real coasters are made of wood!


Well if you want to be pedantic about it, they should have called it "thrill ride challenge".  Do you mean to say that "wooden roller coaster" and "steel roller coaster" don't make sense?  Should it be "roller coaster" (wood) e.g. Grand National and "thrill ride" (steel) e.g. PMBO?

During the intoduction, Suzi said "as we test this summer's best rollercoasters and rollercoaster simulators".

Ortis had to ride the following three rides:
Stealth (Thorpe Park)
AIR (Alton Towers)
Apocalypse (Drayton Manor)

Here's my verdict on their choice of three rides for the test:

Stealth: going by its looks, a good choice to test as it appears scary to me: vertical rise, over the top, vertical drop.  Unfortunately I've never ridden this, so don't know what it's like; it was out of action the day I attended SAW:Ted in March.  Suzi said "Stealth dishes out a healthy dose of AIRtime at the top".  I thought AIRtime occurs on dips (particularly woodies).  I'd have thought Stealth would give hang time at the top, not AIRtime.  Could someone who's been on it tell me more?

AIR: I've only ridden this once, during the AIR/Nemesis ERS at Loopathon Alton Towers 2005.  The person sitting next so me said "You were quiet" as I didn't scream during what was my first ever ride on AIR.  I didn't find it scary, in fact it was a tad relaxing.  AIR was an inappropriate ride if they wanted to find a scary one.  If they insisted on testing an Alton Towers steelie, they should have used Spinball Whizzer (high u-bends, ups and downs whilst spinning), Nemesis (vertical loop set in cutting) or Oblivion (hang time, vertical drop, banked turn).

Apocalypse: a big vertical drop ride, so in that case it's not a coaster surely.  Much taller than Meteorite I recently rode at Devon's Crealy, or Trauma Tower which was out of action two days later at Woodlands.  I've never been to DMP, so don't haven't experienced any DMP rides, but how does it compare to Ice Blast at Pleasure Beach Resort Blackpool (which I rode at Blackpool Bash 2008)?  Fair enough I suppose if they wanted to test one non-coaster ride.  By the way, isn't there normally an ERS on Apocalypse at Loopathon Drayton Manor each year?  According to the 2007 RCCGB Yearbook there was one in 2007 (that's the year I was going to do Loopathon DM, but dropped the idea at the eleventh hour).

In my opinion, The Gadget Show didn't test enough rides.  They should have tested at least eight or ten, and included one or two woodies.  This is what they should have chosen from:

Wooden coasters: Big Dipper, Grand National.

Steel coasters: SAW, Stealth, Colossus, Nemesis Inferno, Nemesis, Oblivion, Spinball Whizzer, PMBO, Infusion.

Non-coaster rides: Tidal Wave (Thorpe Park), Rush (Thorpe Park), Vortex (Thorpe Park), Slammer (Thorpe Park), Apocalypse (DMP), Bling (PBR Blackpool), Ice Blast (PBR Blackpool).

Two Alton Towers steel coasters to avoid: AIR (too relaxing IMO) and Rita (not particularly scary really, I was disappointed with it during our first ever ERS on it the Saturday evening of Loopahon AT 2005).
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AIRtime is the moment of weightlessness caused by the negative G associated with cresting hills. It doesn't matter if the coaster is steel or wood, both can provide AIRtime. Some coasters are designed to provide lots of AIRtime like Shivering Timbers, Phoenix, Formule Pax, Bizarro, Dream of Mediterranean. Not all coasters offer AIRtime, the likes of Kentucky Rumbler, Corkscrew, Nemesis, Shockwave and Twister offer little or none.

What you describe as AIRtime would appear to be high positive G's at the bottom of dips, and therefore is not actually AIRtime. AIRtime comes from the sensation of floating up out of your seat and grabbing some air, not being forced down into your seat.

I think of Hang Time as the moments when you're left hanging in your restraints, maybe upside down on a slow vertical loop, dangling off Oblivions drop brake, hanging at the front of a train as it goes over the lift hill.

When Stealth is flying over the top it can offer some AIRtime, but it depends on which seat you choose. It's also not a mega AIRtime machine.

It wouldn't have been feasible for the Gadget Show to use more rides. Going to an extra park like Oakwood or Blackpool would have added thousands onto the budget of the episode. You could expect the freelance cameraman, soundman, producer, lighting spark and runner to have cost around £1500. I suspect the crew would have been bigger than this. The presenters could cost even more. Everyone would have need accommodation too, so add on another £700. The additional tape stock would have added another couple of hundred assuming they shot on Digibeta rather than DV Cam. They would have hired the mini cams so add on another £500 for the day for them. All the crew would need feeding and this would come from the programme budget, so another few hundred there. It would take longer to edit as the additional material would need time to be ingested into the edit system plus the additional logging time of the footage. So an extra park, requiring an extra days filming would prove too costly.

On ride filming can and does take ages. Some rides take a lot of rigging to install the cameras. The rides also can't run whilst rigging is taking place, unless a train can be taken off the tracks. I filmed on Shockwave at DMP on a few occasions and the first time took over an hour to rig, by the third time I had it down to 20 minutes. The rig on Cobra at Paultons for a live weather forecast took me 4 hours. Whilst we recently did some filming on Klondyke at Hayling Island which took us only 15 minutes, but we had to compromise on shots so as not to hold things up for too long. So filming on multiple rides in a park will prove unpopular with guests when rides are down for long periods of time and the parks are unlikely to agree to this. It also eats into your days filming causing a lot of downtime for crew.

Editorially you can't fit too much into a program or you can't tell the full story. 10 rides would only allow for each to have 4 minutes. That's not enough time to set the scene, do the experiments and look at the results.

They probably chose Air knowing that it is sedate and un-scary. They needed a big ride that would produce different results to Stealth. Apocalypse is often rated as the scariest non coaster ride in the World, so ticks the boxes for inclusion in the programme. Stealth looks imposing and being a fast coaster deserved to be included.

Finally for me Apocalypse is nothing like Ice Blast. Ice Blast is fun and is purely about the launch and being forced into your seat, with maybe a pop of AIRtime at the top. Apocalypse is purely about the suspense and fear of the drop and for me is terrifying.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Magic wrote:
AIRtime is the moment of weightlessness caused by the negative G associated with cresting hills. It doesn't matter if the coaster is steel or wood, both can provide AIRtime. Some coasters are designed to provide lots of AIRtime like Shivering Timbers, Phoenix, Formule Pax, Bizarro, Dream of Mediterranean. Not all coasters offer AIRtime, the likes of Kentucky Rumbler, Corkscrew, Nemesis, Shockwave and Twister offer little or none.

What you describe as AIRtime would appear to be high positive G's at the bottom of dips, and therefore is not actually AIRtime. AIRtime comes from the sensation of floating up out of your seat and grabbing some air, not being forced down into your seat.


Well during the Big Dipper ERS at the Blackpool Bash 2008 and 2009, I noticed the sensation of rising up from my seat as the train went downhill into the dips, and that's what I thought was AIRtime.  Back along I said "the closer to the back, the more AIRtime you get".  I've also described the freefall drop on a drop slide as AIRtime.  Am I wrong on both these statements then?  Have I misunderstood the meaning of it?
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