Archive for RCCGB FORUM Message Board for Members of the Roller Coaster Club of Great Britain to discuss club events and all things theme park related.          RCCGB FORUM Forum Index -> UK Park News drsarf SW6 Probably a hoax but intriguing all the same: http://forums.towersalmanac.com/i...64&view=findpost&p=204820 Rogue Definitely intriguing, but as one of the users says on that board the poem is a direct rip of an historial poem. Me and Hayley were discussing the ride on Monday and we were saying it would be good themed along Robin Hood or Knights of the Round Table. drsarf Yes it's quite easy these days for someone to create a convincing movie. But I do like the theme of this actually... Rogue Some interesting plans here: http://www.ukrides.info/atsw6.htm and here: http://2010.towersnerd.com/plans.php I like the talks about the ride possibly being linked in some way with Hex. Are there any reverse launch coasters in the world? Cos that would be pretty cool and would link in with Rita. The same pack as posted on TT, makes for a very interesting read   Magic Here's the direct link to the video reportedly revealing information about SW6. Apparently another video will be released in less than 48 hours. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS1C6U4Wf7w And here's a poem that goes with the video A trumpet blast, a charge into the light From Alton Towers the hunt took flight The Earl was confused and puzzled to why His favorite hound was nowhere to his eye. Upon the hunting parties return The Earl's young child raised concern For nowhere was he to be seen Then suddenly an unearthly scream. Her clothes covered in crimson smears Her eyes alight, filled with fear The maid cried the hound had killed the boy With blood on it's fangs and eyes full of joy. The frantic Earl, blinded by grief Withdrew his blade from it's sheath An almighty plunge of this hunting knife Took the hound bereft of life. The dog's dying cry awoke his son Peacefully concealed in another room But nearby, a slain wolf was found The true attacker lay on the ground. The Earl realised his dreadful error His heart began to fill with terror His child had been saved by the hound Which lay displaying the fatal wound. The poor dog's bones were laid to rest North of the Towers in sacred ground blessed From that day forth the Earl never smiled His haunting mistake turning him wild. His heart ripped and removed The Earl's sorrow forever proved. In a unmarked grave in Alton Towers Lies a simple bed of flowers In 2009 it's grave was disturbed The Alton hound's accidental rebirth. If this is genuine I'm liking the sound of the back story for the ride. Will be good if they've made an effort rather than just plonk another misthemed ride in an area cough Rita cough. I'm slightly sceptical of the video though. My 2 reasons for doubting it are, if it was professionally made I'd expect it to be 16X9 rather than 4X3 aspect ratio. Secondly the B Roll footage of Rita looks lower quality, as if it's been recorded off TV or the internet. But saying all that it is well put together and shows some real effort on some ones part. Would a fan boy go to this much effort? drsarf Probably, if its a fanboy who is studing media or something at college? The youtube profile says its a 19 year old, if its true info. Look at the enthusiast websites that we have available - very professional looking, using the very latest in web technology, and these are just fan boys when it boils down to it, so the ability to produce a professional outcome is definately there. The main thing that swings it for me is its timing - its very eary being a whole year before the ride opens, and I don't think Merlin would start advertising it already when its aimed soley at enthusiasts. I do think its a very good production and I like the theme of it, and the poems significance. sueysue That poem seems to be telling the story of Beddgelert from North Wales. drsarf Yes, I think that was pointed out on TT - just wit hthe wording changed for AT. Still good though. Magic There's some inconsistency with the different videos too. In the Blair Witch style ones they show a hooded figure, hinting he is connected with the ride theme. But this other one suggests it's themed to a ghostly hound woken from the dead. I've decided to call shenanigans on these. I'm guessing these could be end of year projects for media or marketing students. bluea61 Bunnie wrote: Are there any reverse launch coasters in the world? Cos that would be pretty cool and would link in with Rita. I guess Revolution at Blackpool has a reversed launch. frosty bluea61 wrote: Bunnie wrote: Are there any reverse launch coasters in the world? Cos that would be pretty cool and would link in with Rita. I guess Revolution at Blackpool has a reversed launch. That's what happens when the electrician gets the live and neutral reversed nemesis scribe frosty wrote: bluea61 wrote: Bunnie wrote: Are there any reverse launch coasters in the world? Cos that would be pretty cool and would link in with Rita. I guess Revolution at Blackpool has a reversed launch. That's what happens when the electrician gets the live and neutral reversed hey, dont forget x:/no way out  . . . .     stealth fan Thats not a launch coaster though.   nemesis scribe It is you know . . . well it is in my mind . . . as its the best coaster EVER!!!   Magic It's confirmed the Maude de Neville video is a fake created by a fan boy. It all got crazy when he claimed the ride would be a 2 across B&M, never gonna happen. So the speculation continues. coaster-andy Well details are out for the new coaster. So from Alton Tower Almanac http://www.towersalmanac.com/index.php?show_story=374 I think it may turn out to be a good ride myself but time will tell on how everything will fit in with current area. That will just be Rita then as this are has nothing else left in there I still think they should slap in a Rush copy myself . stealth fan Hmmmm. I can't see the backward launch section being very comfortable. I'm not taking anything with a pinch of salt until construction begins. bluea61 I'm suprised they might be going for a launch coaster next to another one. I guess it will be part way round as I'm sure the plans showed a lift hill. Kinda like Everest. Will be interesting to see what happens Happy Helen Yes, it will be interesting to see what happens. The new coaster look amazing. JamesC With a backwards launch, wouldn't your head get flung forwards? Personally I think it'll be a tilting track, not a launch. Jiffy I was at Alton Towers yesterday and was happy to see ground work finally starting [img]http://gallery.me.com/jeffabbott#100016[/img] coaster-andy Time to start the speculations again as track is on site and posted by http://gallery.towersalmanac.com/thumbnails.php?album=540 Looks like will be a Intimin family coaster.[/url] Boozytwin1 Looks interesting...  I hope its not going to be a big flop though after all the hype!   Do we know whats going to be a 'world first' about this coaster?? Magic I'm guessing it's going to be something along the lines of the Jet Ski and Motorbike coasters Intamin have built in Australia with the Worlds first element being the theming of the trains. I don't think it'll be the broomstick themed coaster that was looked into for Gloomy Wood but something else. If the train style is the Worlds first then it can't be horses due to Pony Express. I do like the idea of a horse theme though. So what other train styles could we have? Ghosts? Werewolf? Hounds? Eagles? It makes sense that Intamin supply the new coaster as they could do a deal on new trains for Rita too. That's if the rumours of Rita being rebranded are true. Coaster Toaster Well some of the track and other bits and bobs are on site now. No lines were crossed to gewt these pics before anyone thinks that rules were broken. Enjoy the rather sad pics lol Death Hmmm...Black track would suggest bits that run close to or over tree height. Mind ye, I havn't been following the SW6 gossip that much though, so the whole ride could be like that for all I know. Incidentally; Does anyone else think that the above track looks very much like the usual type for a Wild Mouse type ride? Excellent photos by the by, Dan! Happy Helen Death wrote: Hmmm...Black track would suggest bits that run close to or over tree height. Mind ye, I havn't been following the SW6 gossip that much though, so the whole ride could be like that for all I know. Incidentally; Does anyone else think that the above track looks very much like the usual type for a Wild Mouse type ride? Excellent photos by the by, Dan! No, it does not look like the usual type of track for a wild mouse coaster, thought it would be more along the lines of Rita. smiler Could this be the name if it is I think it sounds good. http://www.towersnerd.com/news/item.php?id=185 krusty_the_clown at least it looks genuine. http://www.altontowers.com/2010/ frosty krusty_the_clown wrote: at least it looks genuine. http://www.altontowers.com/2010/ The publicity poster looks good. Perhaps March will be a pre-bash RCCGB get-together. stealth fan frosty wrote: krusty_the_clown wrote: at least it looks genuine. http://www.altontowers.com/2010/ The publicity poster looks good. Perhaps March will be a pre-bash RCCGB get-together. Nev mentioned at Loopathon that he was going to organise a rrip for the new coaster. Also, is anyone else having trouble accsessing the Alton Towers home page? bluea61 The 2010 website just has the poster so its real. Although I can't help but feel the Surrender bit is not going to be the name, although I never thought they'd call it Stealth either!! stealth fan Some recent pics from Towersnerd, just scroll to the bottom pictures. http://www.towersnerd.com/gallery/?id=329 mophead The track and lift hill look rather similar to that of X No Way Out at present. JamesC Really looking forward to this! It may only be a family ride, but hey, I tend to enjoy most coasters big or small. I'm interested to know what the trains will look like. Hopefully no over-the-shoulder restraints!! Perhaps there could be single cars even? reg If i'm looking at the pic correctly, I think the rumoured 'tilt track' is going to be more of a moving platform, where the whole section of tracks drops down, not just tilts. Look at the pics of the top the 2nd lift, and the track leaving the station underneath. One above the other, lined up. Maybe the train will roll off the top of lift 2, into the building (castle, we assume) and then the whole length of track drop down and link up with the lower section. Maybe a mild reverse launch out into the helix? Might just be clutching at straws, but you never know. ucozade6 Wild Mouse Death, it is on a track like Oblivion so must be a Wild Mouse    Sorry mate couln't resist   stealth fan New update, anyone? Pics at top of page. http://forum.towerstimes.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=68&p=483926#p483926 Boozytwin1 Looks good... bradpeet It appears that there is a big crane in use on the SW6 site now. http://www.flickr.com/photos/alto...1967873/in/set-72157622774822892/ There are some other new and unusual photos on that same site too stealth fan Excellent find. Wonder what happens in that back helix, where the track just ends on that long straight section   Boozytwin1 That might be the section were the train finishes after going backwards, it will then roll out forwards and into the station... Death Hail all! Currently having another Internet/forums haitus, which is why I've been a bit quiet of late. Anyhow...It looks like AT released an SW6 teaser video earlier this morning, and - Though it doesn't really reveal that much - I thought it might still be worth posting about. Because AT's SW6 website isn't coded that well and is useless on smaller screens, I've copied the video over to YouTube to provide a more accessible mirror - It can be viewed Here if anyone's interested. Farewell for now, and enjoy! >> Death << bluea61 I think they are going to put a big swinging axe blade type thing, and then have some TV aerials which shoot air at you, and....wait that sounds familiar. I hope whatever it is, it lives upto its hype. It doesn't have to be big or scary, just impressive enough that every time you come off you go wow that was good. Serenair They really should do something interesting with the carts on SW6, cos that track looks boring as hell in my opinion :/ Does anyone know whats going to be 'world first' about it? Happy Helen If you go to ask.com it might tell you. Coaster Police Media Coverage :- http://www.birminghammail.net/new...uge-rollercoaster-66331-25143211/ Auntie Murial bluea61 wrote: Bunnie wrote: Are there any reverse launch coasters in the world? Cos that would be pretty cool and would link in with Rita. I guess Revolution at Blackpool has a reversed launch. The Revenge of the mummy Coasters ! frosty I've really grown to love launch coasters (not literally!) or those with fast lift hills such as El' Toro. Even if space is limited then parks could do far worse than add a nice launch coaster such as Tornado in Bakken (a fast paced spinning coaster with a wicked start and wild ride). Andy Hine MBE Alton Towers has hired Simon Cowell's former bodyguard to help them protect a new secret ride they are working on. Alton Towers will pay Tony Adkins the equivalent of a six-figure salary to protect the new ride - codenamed SW6. Bosses say fans are so desperate to find out more about the £15 million roller-coaster - which is said to have a never-before-seen feature - they needed the extra security. And Tony seems to have all the right credentials, he has spent seven years as a professional bodyguard also working for Princess Anne, Iron Maiden and Boy George. He will now direct and provide advice to the in-house security team -- alternatively they could just put pictures of his face around the fence. A spokesperson for Alton Towers Resort said: "There is a die-hard fan base out there dedicated to the discovery of information about the new ride and the Resort is desperately trying to keep it under wraps. "We’re pleased to announce the appointment of Tony, whose previous experience of working in a celebrity environment will stand him in good stead to deal with our superfans." Tony added: “I have looked after celebrities and even a member of the Royal Family, but this has to be one of my most interesting assignments yet. I’ve heard a lot of things and I’m hoping that the fans aren’t as scary as Simon Cowell!" SW6 is scheduled for launch in March 2010. Magic SIGH!!!!!!!!!! They're heading for a big fall if the ride doesn't live up to all this hype. Andy Hine MBE Do to the information being released a day early, all recent posts have been removed at the request of Alton Towers. Please respect this request as I do not want to damage my reputation with them. Thank you. Look out for a special offer to ride the new coaster soon. Andy Coaster Toaster As Its on their site now. Altons coaster is called 13. their offer to go behind the scenes the weekend before it opens looks awsome and a bargin Andy Hine MBE Thirteen - Push your luck at the Alton Towers Resort! UK theme park announces launch of the world's first 'Psychoaster' for March 2010   Today, the Alton Towers Resort has announced that it will be launching the ultimate rollercoaster Thirteen on 20th March 2010.   Until now, Thirteen has been kept top secret under the name "Secret Weapon 6” and is the subject of much speculation from fans.  The new £15m ride is billed to be the scariest in the UK and will join a long line of world first attractions at the Alton Towers Resort including "Nemesis", "Oblivion" and "Air". Thirteen will be based on the discovery of an unearthed ancient burial site in an area of unexplored woodland known as the Dark Forest. Built on the site of the old Corkscrew rollercoaster, visitors will be invited to take a petrifying ride on Thirteen, venturing into the seemingly living and breathing Dark Forest. There they will face an unknown horror that has been unleashed from the ancient crypt. The ride has been developed with the world's leading coaster and thrill consultants who have collaborated to combine the ultimate elements of physical and psychological fear - to create what experts are dubbing a ‘psychoaster’.     The new technology will be the first of its kind in the world and will potentially make the ride so frightening that the Resort is considering introducing a controversial age-rating. Only visitors between the ages of 16-55 will be allowed on the ride due to concerns about emotional maturity and physical health. Visitors may also be limited to one ride per day and be required to sign a waiver which assures the Resort of their physical and mental health to avoid any resulting lawsuits. THIRTEEN STATS AND FACTS • £15 million pound investment • Built on a burial site that is part of the original Alton Abbey, Thirteen will be themed around a crypt, with one of the main features of the ride taking place inside the unearthed crypt • The ride was tested and built in Europe before being shipped to the UK • Thirteen has been in design for 2 years and taken 9 months to build by a team of 35 working round the clock, to ensure it’s ready for launch in March • The ride is replacing the old Corkscrew Rollercoaster which closed in November 2008 after 28 years and was the nation’s first double-helix rollercoaster John Wardley, rollercoaster expert said: “This ground-breaking technology is something never seen before and will open up a whole new concept for theme park rides. By combining physical and psychological terror, Thirteen will be the first ride to play on emotional fear and something coaster fans will not be prepared for.”   Morwenna Angove, Sales and Marketing Director at the Alton Towers Resort said: “We're thrilled to announce the launch of Thirteen at the Alton Towers Resort.  This new ride will be a shocking, never-experienced-before rollercoaster and we’re excited that once again the Alton Towers Resort is able to offer visitors the chance to experience something unavailable in any other part of the world. However, just as we take physical health and safety very seriously, Thirteen demands that we also consider our visitors’ emotional health, and as such we’re not afraid of introducing necessary measures to ensure riders are fully prepared and healthy enough to brave Thirteen”     Coaster Police Coaster Toaster wrote: their offer to go behind the scenes the weekend before it opens looks awsome and a bargin How is 200 quid per person (based on 2 people) a bargain?  Unless you squish 4 people into a family hotel room and it works out 100 each (which you can't anyway as it's only 2 adults per room), given that the park isn't open - you get golf and the waterpark. Mind you with 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts included, i guess it's not that bad. It does say that the ride isn't necessarily going to operate, it's just a tour - though we'd hope if it's ready to work, it would, i guess this is a disclaimer. That said, it does look like a top weekend from a behind-the-scenes perspective. I will seriously consider it, i mean, what else is there to do in March Certainly looks to be a good ride. I wonder how much Psy is really going to feature that warrants a 16-55 age limit and signing of a liability agreement. This of cause could be pre-opening hype, but still - sounds a great ride. And really nice from the photo's i've seen so far, that it uses the woodland area as themeing. Will feel faster if it's close to trees (Boulder Dash comes to mind). Looking forward to it RobinA Quote: I wonder how much Psy is really going to feature that warrants a 16-55 age limit and signing of a liability agreement. Will we have to show our birth certificates, if so, I need a new one (younger version) along with a bottle of hair colouring and whilst thinking about it - some new hair!! stealth fan 1 ride a day? There goes the ERS then David Ellis That's what I was thinking...although if you read the text it does say the resort is "considering" the age limit (i.e. they may consider NOT to introduce it) and it also says "Visitors MAY also be limited to one ride per day and be required to sign a waiver", i.e. they may not! It sounds like the usual Alton Towers new coaster hype...saying lots of scary stuff and then probably backing down on all of that when faced with thousands of people wanting to ride it. David. stealth fan Me and Mum are thinking of doing the tour. I read it was from £99.00 per person, not £200.00 on the homepage. Rogue Makes me wonder whether the age rating thing and 1 ride per day thing could possibly be a bit of marketing hype to draw attraction to the ride. Surely with the 16 age rating we go back to a similar debate that was had with Saw the ride? About the appropriateness of something like this in a family park. Although saying that, for me the scarier the ride then the better. Andy Hine MBE In the words o Public Enemy.... Caught you lookin' for the same thing It's a new thing check out this I bring Uh Oh the roll below the level 'Cause I'm livin' low next to the bass C'mon Turn up the radio They claim that I'm a criminal By now I wonder how Some people never know The enemy could be their friend guardian I'm not a hooligan I rock the party and Clear all the madness, I'm not a racist Preach to teach to all 'Cause some they never had this Number one, not born to run About the gun... I wasn't licensed to have one The minute they see me, fear me I'm the epitome - a public enemy Used, abused without clues I refused to blow a fuse They even had it on the news Don't believe the hype... Regatta Riders between 16 and 55??? Only one ride a day???   Well it had better not be true (especially the first part) or they`re going to be in SERIOUS trouble from several club members for a start!! (Not naming any names . .!!!) Knowing Alton as we do, though, I`m pretty sure it`s all a load of cod fish! Coaster Police stealth fan wrote: Me and Mum are thinking of doing the tour. I read it was from £99.00 per person, not £200.00 on the homepage. £99.00 per person, per night (pppn is next to the price) based on 2 sharing. I.E. whatever you do, it's going cost £396 for the weekend. Too much IMHO. The package is only available as 2 nights. - therefore £198 per person. Only the old hotel will be open, as Splash Landings is being re-furbished. The Waterpark will be open as will the golf. The rest of the park is closed. This is a special preview weekend offer. I spoke to someone today about it at AT. stevencaine It dose not even sound like you get too ride  it Magic I'm sure the likes of Age Concern would have a issue over the upper age limit. 55 is incredibly young. The lower age limit is kind of fair enough if it really is that traumatic a ride. Out of interest how old is John Wardley, he must be over 55. I trust he won't be allowed to ride it. The environmental impact of everyone having to sign a disclaimer to ride is too horrible to think of. Assuming it's a standard sheet of A4, a ride capacity of 1400 people per hour, a operating day of 8 hours; the stack of disclaimers would reach nearly 4 foot tall. If the ride was at full capacity for the busy 6 week Summer period, this would create a stack 168 feet tall. I gather disclaimers have to be kept for 3 years so they'd have a stack 460 feet tall. And I still haven't factored in that the park is open for more than just the 6 weeks in Summer. Ignoring the amount of paper involved what about the carbon foot print of the building required to store all this paper. Did anyone see any planning application to build a warehouse? I strongly suspect that both these comments in the press release are about over hyping the ride. In a bid to make the ride sound even more scary and exciting they're dragging out all the puff tricks they can. Fair play to them, but it could be dangerous if the ride turns out to not live up to expectations. David Ellis I am sure you are right Marcus...but age limits on riding coasters are quite common in other countries (like Japan, for example)...I don't think they are enforced strictly to be honest, but the principle is used elsewhere. On this occasion though, I suspect the whole thing is just the usual hype. David. coaster-andy I think the age limit thing is a bit pants. When a ride is 1.2 it should be that hight. Why are parks like Alton & Thorpe doing this to there rides of late. Madness is my thoughts. stealth fan Me and Mum have now decided we won't be doing the weekend. Would have liked to have seen Hex behind the scenes though   Spanners Maybe you would sign a virtual document, like you get with DHL and Parcelforce etc. smiler As some of you may know alot of the steal work from the corckscrew was used to do the themeing for the new ride like the massive tree they have but the corckscrews them selfs were kept. The rumurs now is that the corckscrews are being installed at the front entrance of the park. I think this will look great. http://www.towersnerd.com/news/item.php?id=195 Coaster Police What a great idea and tribute to the coaster, and all it did towards the success of Alton Towers today. I hope this happens. smiler Towers times have revailed. Only last week saw the unveiling of Alton Towers' latest roller coaster: Thirteen. The announcement set the enthuisiast community alight with discussion and excitement, but it seems they weren't the only ones. It has been reported that certain celebrities have made offers to gain the first exclusive ride on the world's first "Psychoaster". These include an un-named Premiership footballer, who has offered £20,000 to be the first to ride. Such interest has prompted Alton Towers Resort to consider the possibility of opening up a bidding war, with the highest bid gaining that exclusive ride. If the auction goes ahead, the money raised would go to the Merlin's Magic Wand charity. This wouldn't be the first time Alton Towers have held a charity auction for the same cause, as this time last year a Corkscrew ride car was auctioned off with a winning bid of £7,300. coaster-andy So Smiler with the bidding war about to go this  means you will not be the first rider then   Andy Hine MBE Corkscrew plans! http://62.173.124.237/upload/Publ...OCATION%20PLANS%20%2818791%29.pdf http://62.173.124.237/upload/Publ...92-FUL%20PHOTOS%20%2818790%29.pdf http://62.173.124.237/publicacces...OTO0PG04I00&searchtype=WEEKLY looping lee Its great to see the corkscrew making a comeback, even if it is just a visual treat   stealth fan Linked from the Mania Hub forums ( Thorpe, Alton, Chessington) New picture update. http://www.flickr.com/photos/altontowersresort/        RCCGB FORUM Forum Index -> UK Park News Page 1 of 1