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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:27 pm    Post subject: Careers in the Armed Forces? Reply with quote

Hail All! Twisted Evil
I've got a bit of a job-related quandry that I'd like people's opinions on, given how many of ye know me well in real life as well as over this forum. Smile

Last night whilst travelling on a bus to Aldershot, I found an MOD pamphlet that outlined a few bits and pieces about soldiering and other roles within the Armed Forces, and read as much as I could before the bus arrived at my stop. Over the last 30 minutes or so, I've also been taking a look at the MOD Army Careers site and have managed to gain a small insight into Army life and careers.

Now - As many of ye know - My life is currently "in the pits" in a manner of speaking, as I've been unemployed for a very long time, have got virtually no motivation to complete the numerous projects that I have started over the past five years, and - To tell the honest to Gods truth - Over the past two years I've observed that I've been paying gradually less and less attention to certain personal matters, which isn't a good thing in the slightest. Sad
Now...It's obvious to me that my life needs a serious kick up the backside to get it moving in a fufilling, constructive direction...And I'm now wondering if a career in the services might be a suitable solution. Shocked

On the other hand however, aside from the fact that I have the learning disability Asperger's Syndrome - Which in itself could be a barring factor to service life - I should also point out that because of my very strong AsatrĂº (Norse/Viking Pagan) religious beliefs, I'm not 100% certain how my Gods would view my use of modern weaponry...Which in itself would be an obvious necessity, given that I'd most likely be interested in joining an Infantry regiment - And the weapons that I'm more accustomed to and skilled in using (Swords/Axes/Longbows etc.) havn't been used on the field of War for a good 200 years or so! ShockedSadEvil or Very Mad
As an aside; There is another personal issue of mine - That I will not mention here - That could also cause problems in such a career, so I'd need to seek further advice about that also...Though that would be a matter of strict confidentiality between myself and the person(s) who'd advise me on that particular point. Smile

So...Given what ye all know of me as a person and what I've outlined above, does anyone think that considering a career in the Armed Forces could be a wise idea, or would it be something best avoided even given my current circumstances? Shocked
I'd be especially interested to hear from any Club members who are former or current service personnel, especially as the MOD careers site has a blatant bias all over it, and I'd rather get an unbiased and realistic view on following such a path if possible. Cool

Note: I'm fully aware of the downsides to a life in the Army already (A free trip home in a wooden box being one of them)...But at the same time I cannot help but feel that the Gods placed me upon this Earth for some reason or another, and - Even if I wound up doing something other than my true destiny, whatever that may be - I'd rather have lived my life doing something useful to society, as opposed to just sitting around on my fat ass and doing sod-all worthwhile...And what could be more worthwhile than defending and protecting my homeland; The ancient and sacred Kingdom of Albion? Twisted Evil

Given that I adhere to a Warrior's religion anyway, I suppose military service might be a logical step forward for me to take. However, any unbiased help or advice that people can offer on this subject would be very much appreciated. Cool

Farewell... Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Death

My brother-in-laws are both in a military environment. One serves in the RAF as a medic and the other is in the Army.

I will only comment on the Army one as that is the route you are interested in following, however if you want any information about the RAF please feel free to ask.

I know you mentioned the infantry regiment but how would you feel about other careers within the army such as engineering?

I would say that the army environment has done wonders for my brother-in-law in terms of hard work and discipline. He is very well travelled around the UK and other countries and has learned many valuable skills and experienced many life changing things.

I am not sure how you're aspergers would affect your application, I can ask my brother-in-law if you like?

Also an old school friend of mine serves in the Royal Coldstream Guards, I would say this has also done wonders for him however he lost a good friend of his when he served in Iraq so there are down sides. He also mentioned that at times he can feel very isolated.

I know this information is probably not very helpful but just wanted to add my point of view.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could you follow orders and wear a uniform?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hail All! Twisted Evil
Bunnie wrote:
Hi Death
My brother-in-laws are both in a military environment. One serves in the RAF as a medic and the other is in the Army.

I will only comment on the Army one as that is the route you are interested in following, however if you want any information about the RAF please feel free to ask.
Cheers Bunnie! If I have any further questions, I'll ask them here for the benefit of anyone else who might also be considering such a career! Smile

I know that the RAF is about a whole lot more than just flying aircraft, but knowing me I'd want to follow a path of flying within the RAF...However, my eyesight at the moment is barely sufficient to meet CAA standards, so there's absolutely no chance that I'd ever be able to fly moderate-speed aircraft (Eurofighters etc.) unless spectacles are permitted in the cockpit...And I very much doubt that is the case! Laughing
Bunnie wrote:
I know you mentioned the infantry regiment but how would you feel about other careers within the army such as engineering?
Well...To be honest I wouldn't have a problem with combining roles, but - Crazy/insane though it may sound - If I was in the Army, I think I'd rather be on the front-line, than working with units further back. Shocked

The main reason for that is mainly because - With me identifying with a certain form of vocation and lifestyle (I follow a Viking religion...Go figure! Twisted Evil) I have a feeling that for me to be in an Army but never actually be in combat could drive me up the wall! ShockedRolling Eyes
Bunnie wrote:
I would say that the army environment has done wonders for my brother-in-law in terms of hard work and discipline. He is very well travelled around the UK and other countries and has learned many valuable skills and experienced many life changing things.

I am not sure how you're aspergers would affect your application, I can ask my brother-in-law if you like?
If ye wouldn't mind doing so, that'd be great! Smile
I suppose that there are certain roles (Probabally non-Combat though) where Asperger's won't pose a problem, but one thing I have to consider is that I was once declined a position at Thorpe Park as a ride operator due to my disability on health and safety grounds...And I'm sure that firearms are a whole lot more dangerous than the average Intamin rollercoaster! Laughing

I'm thinking of swinging via the Army careers office in Aldershot tomorrow to have a chat with them and see if I can get a better insight as to my suitability for such a role...After all, being in the Army is far more than "just a job"...It's an entire lifestyle that requires an immense amount of dedication and commitment. There is - After all - The four-year "lock-in" period to consider if nothing else. Smile
Bunnie wrote:
Also an old school friend of mine serves in the Royal Coldstream Guards, I would say this has also done wonders for him however he lost a good friend of his when he served in Iraq so there are down sides. He also mentioned that at times he can feel very isolated.
Aye, and that's one of many downsides to a life in the Army. To be honest, if I had a long-term partner or was engaged/married, then I doubt that I'd go in for such a role unless they were to do the same as well...After all, could ye imagine the sorrow for thy husband/wife if ye were to be killed in action? ShockedCrying or Very sad

As I am at the moment - Single - It wouldn't be such a great hassle I don't think. Although there are family and friends to consider, at least it'd be easier for them to understand and accept my decision, and the potential positive and negative aspects that it would bring with it.
Although there is no stronger emotional bond than family and friendship, it seems that the bonds of relationship bind so strong that the forced severing of them has far stronger implications than the severing of the other kinds. Sad

Putting myself in such a situation (Of being killed in action) for a moment, I'm sure that my friends and family - Though they'd miss having me around - Would understand and (Eventually) accept that Id've gone into the fray knowing full well that there was the chance that I could be killed, and therefore shouldn't have any sense of guilt or regret over it...Although having said that, I'm not good at judging human emotion very well, so I might well be completely off-base with that statement. Confused
Bunnie wrote:
I know this information is probably not very helpful but just wanted to add my point of view.
On the contrary, it's been extremely helpful! Cheers again! CoolSmile

Nimmykins wrote:
Could you follow orders and wear a uniform?
Well...Wearing a uniform is definitely no problem for me at all...Did ye ever see me at the Loopathon events around 2000-2005CE? I used to wear Deutsche Bundesarmee shirts all the time, albeit modified with assorted band patches! Twisted Evil

As for following orders: I would happily follow any order that does not command me to harm non-combatants or unarmed foes, so although I'd directly obey an order to escort a group of non-combatant civilians off of a Battlefield under fire etc, I would defy any order to kill or harm a foe who was clearly unarmed, or not able to fairly defend himself against such an attack. I'd go as far as capturing/arresting them and taking them as a Prisoner of War, but at the same time I'd still treat them with a degree of humanity and respect, as should always be the case with one Warrior to another. Smile

My main concern with following orders however is the amount of "static" that my Asperger's can cause with interpereting such orders correctly. Say if I was ordered to attack a specific position as part of a greater offensive, I would probabally attack that position alone and not realise that I'd need to move on to attacking other enemy positions as required by the offensive. Shocked

This - Coupled with the fact that I'm a useless tactician - Is one of several reasons why I would never want to rise too high in rank either. As a Lance-Corporal or Sergent I'd probabally be OK...But as an Officer or above, I'd have more duties and responsibilities than I could handle, at least the way I am at the moment! Shocked
Plus, the higher in rank I'd go, the further and further from the front I would be stationed, until such a time where I'd find that - Insted of hitting the enemy right where it hurts by my own hand - I'd possibly be sitting behind a desk or in a War-room hundreds/thousands of miles away...Although I don't know the roles of higher ranking officers very well, so again I may be completely off-base with this comment. Confused

Farewell, and many thanks again for thy advice! CoolTwisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having been in the Army (a long time ago) I would say that only sign up for the minimum period, give yourself a year and if you enjoy it sign on for longer (higher rates of pay).
Do not sign up for infantry or tanks, consider Logistics. I was a driver and got to go all over europe (not stuck in barracks most of the time) you get to supply the forward units etc and you come out with a skill you can use in civilian life unlike the infantry. Logistics covers all sorts of trades also so good luck in your choice
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hail, Chris/Colin/C Twisted Evil (Sorry mate, I can't remember thy first name! Rolling Eyes)
c anderson wrote:
Having been in the Army (a long time ago) I would say that only sign up for the minimum period, give yourself a year and if you enjoy it sign on for longer (higher rates of pay).
Do not sign up for infantry or tanks, consider Logistics. I was a driver and got to go all over europe (not stuck in barracks most of the time) you get to supply the forward units etc and you come out with a skill you can use in civilian life unlike the infantry. Logistics covers all sorts of trades also so good luck in your choice
Cheers for the advice! Admittedly, the idea of a path in the Infantry does grab me a fair bit for the reasons I've outlined in my previous posts, but at the same time I feel that I could fit into the RLC as well, mainly because I love driving (The idea of driving larger vehicles over terrain at speed is certainly one that appeals to me for some reason! Smile) and I'm assuming that some light Engineering (Repairing vehicles in the field etc.) would be involved as well. Cool

Mind ye, I still havn't made a completely informed decision as to whether or not I shall actually be going into the Army yet (It doesn't help that one of my friends is against the idea of me becoming a "Squaddie" Rolling Eyes) but as I've mentioned previously, I have an idea that an Army career could well give me the kick up the ass that I truly need to get me moving in a constructive direction! Smile

Anyhow...I've just been to the Army careers office in Aldershot, and I've been booked in for a pre-briefing at 14:30 on Wednesday, so we'll see how it goes! Cool

Farewell, and wish me luck! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good luck death.
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